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Quantum Human Design is a new and transformed Human Design language that is more expansive, empowering, expressive and comes with a more comprehensive understanding. It’s been deliberately engineered and upgraded the HD vocabulary to a powerful, positive, higher vibrational frequency of energy to help you fully activate your potential. In this week’s episode, we have Robin Winn, the author of Understanding Your Clients through Human Design: The Breakthrough Technology.


  1. How human design helps us find our way. [03:00]
  2. Tapping into human design and empowering each other. [04:30]
  3. Robin Winn’s favorite breakthrough story of using human design with someone. [09:20]
  4. How human design changed the way Robin Winn’s relationship with her clients. [11:43]


Robin Winn is a Transformational Coach, MA, Psychology, LMFT, Diamond Logos Mentor, ABM NeuroMovement Practitioner, Rosen Method Bodywork Practitioner, Speaking Circles Facilitator, Tibetan Buddhist Community Dharma Leader, and Wisdom Healing Qigong Teacher.

After working for 20 years as a psychotherapist, she was introduced to the Human Design portal. Not only did understanding Human Design take her work with clients to another level, it opened a new depth of appreciation and compassion in her marriage.



Hi everybody. Welcome to the Understanding Human Design podcast. I’m Karen Curry Parker, and I am so excited today to welcome Robin Winn, who is the best-selling author of, oh, I have to show you the book, Understanding Your Clients through Human Design. If you are in the helping professions in any way, you got to get your hands on this book. It’s a first of all, it’s a beautiful book. And secondly, it’s just got so much information that’s going to help you tap into how do you use human design as a powerful tool to support your clients and their transformation. Robin is a marriage and family therapist. She’s a human design coach and a trainer. She’s done her work as a licensed marriage and family therapist for 25 years. Let that sink in because I’ll tell you now, at this age, in my life, I am a hundred percent sure that 25 years is a long time.

There was a time when I would say 25 years, it’d be like, what does that mean? Now, I’m like, that is a long time that cultivates an enormous amount of depth and mastery. She uses human design as a way to more deeply understand herself, her clients, and to help other people learn how they can use this tool to understand themselves and their clients. She trains therapists, coaches, and other people on how to use human design as a therapeutic tool to really get to the heart of why your clients are hurting, give you skills to really activate your client’s potential and give you a path to really begin to lead your clients back into the heart of who they truly are. I’m so excited to have you here. It has been my honor, my pleasure to watch you thrive and grow and deepen your knowledge. In such a beautiful big way in the last couple of years, really step out and share your wisdom and your gifts with the world. Thank you for joining me here today.

Thank you, Karen. That was such a beautiful introduction. I’m going to re-listen to that. I think back of, I think it was five years ago. I was in Texas with you. You were videoing me. You’re videoing a group of us. We were starting our businesses in human design, doing something, we’re taking it to the next level something. And I, I remember saying, just watch out, you’re going to be seeing me, just wait and it’s, you know, it does. I’ve got that gate three and my son it’s like, I’m slow to warm up. It’s taken me a long time to start to come into my fruition and human design has been a big part of understanding and having compassion for why it’s taken so long. Because I kept thinking, I know I have so much to give, and this is what I know so many people feel. I have so much to give. Why aren’t I giving it? My embodiment, my, my living, my purpose, my showing up fully. When you look at your design, it’s not like, well, this is why, of course it’s not wrong. It’s just who I am. And then, then you can work with it. We were talking about this earlier. You can work with it in ways that are empowering rather than disempowering. So, I’m so grateful that you have been my mentor, my guide, and my support in finding this incredible. I think of it as a multi-dimensional map, a guidance. Before we had the instruments that we have today, like the peoples navigating the seas, they looked up to the stars and read the stars to find their way and human designs, like a star map, help us find our way.

I love that. Talk to me for a minute, because I want to know when you introduce this to the professional community, whether it’s coaches or therapists and you start telling them, look here, we’re going to use astrology and it’s going to spit out this funky little triangle. And this is going to tell you everything you need to know, or at least a big chunk of what you can use to guide your clients. How do you do that process? What are people’s responses to that? Are they open? Are they ready? Are they excited?

Yeah. Let me begin by telling a story of a student of mine is also a colleague who was an eye surgeon projector who burnt out. And then, became a medical intuitive. She came and she immediately knew to do my training. She already had a ray that could tap into this. She works with doctors and she uses human design now with doctors. She says, there are so many doctors out there who are like closet woo woo. But they can’t afford to show up and talk about that out loud. I want to talk about this conversation in a similar kind of way. There’s a bandwidth of people who are definitely have no capacity to tap into human design. It’s too, at some level, or just doesn’t resonate. There are people who have a hidden openness, if that makes sense, or an interest. There are people who are like, give it to me. Totally give it to me. What I’m trying to say is, it’s kind of like you say, the triangle calls people. I think it’s a resonance piece. I can’t go out there and say, look at this to people. I’m a generator I have to be in response. So, I’m really responding to people who have already had a bit of an interest right now. I work with some I’m training a psychiatrist right now that said people in the health profession, therapists, coaches, they come up against places where they can’t, you know, it’s a block that they come up with. They can’t help someone. We all get stuck. We’re all looking for new tools all the time. So, new tools are being created, are being introduced.

I like to use the analogy of the MRI and in medicine, like when that came into being a whole new world, opened up about what we could see in the body. Right? So human design is like an MRI, we’re therapists and coaches can get immediate access to a whole download of information that they can use in their work. When I approach it from that place, people are interested because people want to help people and they want whatever they want, the best tool they can use to help people. I’m passionate about human design as one of those brilliant tools that the rubber hits the road with. It’s not airy fairy. It’s very pragmatic. Human design is immediate. You run that chart and, in a nanosecond, that person, you have a whole world, you have a whole sky view of that person, whole navigational system to support that person.

Totally. What is your favorite? Of course, obviously without violating client confidentiality, but what is your favorite breakthrough story of using human design with someone?

I’m going to start broad and then hone in there. I know you understand this. I love working with projectors. I love it because all of the sudden, their whole world view of themselves shift their whole understanding of themselves shift. They start to value themselves after feeling deficient like a hidden deficiency or a blatant deficiency, something shifts and their whole trajectory changes like that. That’s my first thing. I love introducing human design to projectors. Just even like this, Dr. Veronica, I’m sure she would not mind me saying, Dr. Veronica, the medical intuitive, when she realized she was a projector, she was like, everything makes sense now. I mean, she had a total crash. Whenever she sees a projector doctor, like, you’re a projector, you can’t do this this way. You have to do medicine in a different way. So, kind of like you. I love it when the people I train then go on and have impact on other people and support other people. I love that. I’m having a scenario pop-up right now that just happened. There are so many great stories, but I’m just seeing if I can speak this in a way that’s confidential. I don’t think I can. That’s the one that’s coming up and I can’t translate it. So, I’m going to just ask for another question and hope that something can come up that I can share.

So, in using human design, as a tool in your practice, how do you think it’s changed the way in which you practice with your clients?

Yeah. As a psychotherapist, even though I’m very individual and did everything my own way, there’s a language and there’s a field understanding that I worked within. It was this narrative of deficiency with the narrative of people needed my help. It was a narrative of people are damaged in some way. And even though I always had a challenge with the DSM and the labeling that was always challenging for me. And I stayed away from that for the most part. There was a way, and I’m embarrassed to say this. So, just bear with me. I fell into the mother blaming, I didn’t know it, but it’s kind of like racism or something. Mother blaming is a shame of his is putting onto the mother, all the problems of the person, basically you weren’t mothered properly. This is why your life is like this, or your parents, your father treated you this way. I’m not saying terrible things don’t happen. I’m not saying there’s poor parenting. I’m not saying that. But what I discovered was like, for example, I had a projector client who had a lot of openness and had a story of not being seen by her parents and particularly her mother. I bought that story. I bought that story, hooked and supported that story. With human design, I was like, well, yeah, you weren’t seen, of course you weren’t seen, you’re not designed to be, you know, it’s a challenge to be seen with all this openness as a projector. This is what you’re here to grapple with in this lifetime. If not wrong, it’s not bad. Right. Let’s take it off your mother. Let’s take it off the circumstances and look at how it’s actually a place of your conundrum, what you’re here to grapple with and the puzzle you’re here to solve in a way and find, empower ways to work with this and visibility. This kind of natural invisibility cloak that is part of that hand you were dealt. It took the blame and shame off of the past. The story of attaching to wounds as a way of having an identity, it shifted that.

That’s beautiful. That’s really beautiful. I do think that using this tool that way, it does give you a very different path to supporting people and unfolding into the store, into the person they are, they were born to explore the expansion of. I like to say it that way deliberately, because I think there’s no end point. I love that you focus on the conundrum and the conundrum is sort of being a growing point because I think when you look at a lot of human design charts, it’s been my experience that I think with the exception of one chart that I’ve seen, every chart has like, there’s this and there’s this. And there’s so like a hundred percent diametrically opposed. How do you work with these two things? 99% of our internal challenges are internal challenges. It’s about bridging that place within ourselves, where we have these different facets of our being that need a bridge. Sometimes need compassion, sometimes need acceptance. Sometimes they need a good laugh because sometimes they’re just funny and you can just be with, oh, that’s me, that’s the story I’m with.,

Well, when you think about it, you know, you take, let’s take a heterosexual couple for a second, you know, there’s differences. Sometimes, those differences are very like challenging. And sometimes those differences are what create the aliveness, right? The same as within ourselves, those polarities, those, those differences in who we are in ourselves create sparks, create a likeness. There are points of birth, places to give birth. I love the goodness of the chart from the way you teach it really the heart centered, like this is all good. Let’s see how to empower you with who you are.

Robin, I’m so excited to be with you at our international, our first international human design conference, where you’re going to be sharing information about how to use human design with your clients and information from your book. You guys, if you haven’t seen this book or a snag copy of this book, it’s called understanding your clients through human design. Robin wind is wind with two ends and you can get this on Amazon and go get it. It’s a great reference guide. It’s a great tool to use and go check out.

I think really important work that she does. I just have to say this again, because I think this is so powerful releasing our therapeutic practices from the idea of brokenness, I think it’s so powerful and gives people a permission to say I’m not broken and giving them a new story to live into. That’s really beautiful. So, thank you for doing this work.

Well, thank you for opening the door for me to do it. I have deep gratitude. I look forward to seeing everyone at conference every year. I just want to say this thing before we get off every year, I’ve got a conference with you in the human design community, human design, your human sign community, and there is always a surprise transformation. Thank you.


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